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Primul pas ... Engleza

Last post 08-14-2006, 10:48 AM by Dell. 3 replies.
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  •  05-09-2006, 05:07 AM 43577

    Primul pas ... Engleza

    Well... eu zic ca pina una alta engleza lor de aici nu seamna absolut deloc cu cea pe care multi dintre noi am invat-o in Ro. Insa, cu toate astea este obligatorie si nu pentru ca iti este ceruta la rezidenta sau IELTS ci mai ales ca am vazut destui romani care dupa 3 luni si-au pierdut locul de munca din cauza asta. Si mai mult de atit au si cheltuit toti banii pe aici ca de ... ca romanu' sa cumpere de toate pt acasa la familie ca vine din strainatate. Asa ca sfatul meu cel mai bun este sa se stie linga engleza si nu ceva de genul a arata cu degetul. Sper ca cine va citi va si baga la cap ca daca se gindeste ca va invata dupa ce ajunge aici, s-ar putea sa fie o mare teapa...astia nu sunt chiar asa de ingaduitori daca nu se inteleg cu tine. Te lasa o zi doua, o luna doua, dar dupa aia cauta pe atlcineva chiar daca nu face treaba la fel de bine ca tine dar cel putin se poate intelege cu el..


    CHCH
  •  05-12-2006, 05:51 PM 44083 in reply to 43577

    Re: Primul pas ... Engleza

    bine faci ca aduci vorba de treaba asta. hai ca expresiile tipice... le mai invata omul cu timpul, si cu accentul se mai obisnuieste, dar daca vine aci fara sa aiba o baza destul de solida cu engleza nu are sanse. chestia cu aratat cu degetul merge, daca te duci client intr-un magazin, normal. dar daca nu te poti exprima cit de cit pe intelesul lor la locul de munca nu-si pierde nimeni timpul cu tine. si poate ca asta e unul din lucrurile care se ascund in spatele  expresiei lor favorite la angajare "you need new zealand experience". foarte multi am vazut ca s-au acrit de cite ori se lovesc de lipsa acestei "nz experience" cu care ii resping angajatorii. dar ei prin asta nu inteleg doar sa fi lucrat in nz pur si simplu, ci este mai mult un termen care descrie cit de bine te poti exprima, cit de usor poti fi inteles de cei din jurul tau. plus cit de bine poti functiona la locul de munca facind parte dintr-o echipa, cit de bine te-ai adaptat culturii lor (cultura locului de munca) etc, etc. intr-un fel angajatorul vrea o garantie ca noul angajat o sa produca un return on investment (acesta fiind salariul pe care il primeste) cit mai curind, eventual fara sa necesite training sau efort prea mare din partea restului angajatilor de a se intelege cu el.

    si intr-adevar, fara sa stii engleza cit de cit bine, cred ca in ziua de azi nici macar in constructii nu se mai angajeaza pt ca sint OSH standards si controale din ce in ce mai dese asa ca nu prea isi mai asuma nimeni riscul sa angajeze pe cineva care nu intelege/vorbeste engleza cit de cit bine.


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  •  05-12-2006, 06:43 PM 44084 in reply to 44083

    Re: Primul pas ... Engleza

    si ca tot sintem la capitolul engleza, m-am gindit sa le dam oamenilor o lista de expresii slang pe care or sa le auda la kiwioti

    ads:   TV commercials, adverts, these days you can boil the jug while the ads are on

    afternoon tea:   short break (10-15mins) from work in afternoon

    a into g:   get going, *** into gear, as in 'I've got to get my a into g'

    anklebiter:   small child

    *** over tit:   head over heels

    Aotearoa:   Maori name for New Zealand, it means the land of the long white cloud

    ***:   ass, rear end, butt, as in 'Get off your *** and do something'

    Arvo - afternoon

    B

    banger:   sausage, often in bangers and mash, which is sausages with mashed potato

    bach:   holiday home, pronounced batch

    beaut, beauty:   splendid, terrific, as in 'Beaut car, where'd you get it?'

    bit of a dag:   hard case, comedian

    biscuit:   cookie, recipes for Afghans and Anzacs

    bite your bum:   go away, get lost

    Bitser - mongrel dog

    bloke:   man, usually a stranger, as in 'that bloke down the road'

    bludge:   to sponge off other people or the government, as in 'dole bludger'

    bonnet:   car hood

    boohai:   out of the way, remote or non existent place, often in 'up the boohai' to mean lost, or 'up the boohai shooting pukakas' meaning lost, possibly in the head.

    boot:   car trunk

    boy-racer:   young man who drives fast in a car with a loud stereo

    brassed off:   disappointed, annoyed

    brickie - bricklayer

    Bring a plate - means bring a dish of food to share

    brown eye - to flash your naked butt at someone

    bugger:   similar to 'damn', used in recent 1999 Toyota ad, and now has almost NZ icon status.

    bugger all:   not much, as in 'I've got bugger all money left'

    buggered:   tired, exhausted

    bugger off:   go away, piss off

    bum:   rear end, butt

    bungy - kiwi slang for elastic strap, as in Bungy Jumping

    bush:   a large dense area of small and large native trees and plants, forest

     C

    cardy, cardie:   woolen jersey that buttons up the front

    carked it:   died

    cheers:   goodbye, thanks or good luck

    chemist:   pharmacy, drugstore

    cheerio:   goodbye, also a name for a cocktail sausage

    chilly bin:   polystyrene insulated box for keeping food and drinks cold, cooler, esky

    chocka:   choc-a-block, full, overflowing

    chocolate fish:   chocolate covered marshmallow fish, frequently given or offered as a reward.

    chips:   fried potato slices, but much thicker than a McDonalds french fry

    chippie:   potato chip

    chippy - builder, carpenter

    chrissy:   Christmas

    chrissy pressies:   Chrismas presents

    chook - chicken

    chunder:   vomit

    cocky:   farmer, most commonly cow-cocky

    college:   high school, not university

    couldn't see the road to the dunny if it had red flags on it:   said of somebody blind drunk or slow witted

    cow:   unpleasant, mean, ill-tempered person or uncooperative thing, as in 'a cow of a lawnmower'

    cracker:   very good

    crash hot:   excellent

    crayfish:   lobster-like edible saltwater crustacean

    creek:   small freshwater stream, the sort of place to fish for eels

    crib:   Southland equivalent of bach

    crikey ***:   expression of surprise

    crook:   sick, poorly, also to go crook at, meaning to be angry with, or to put someone crook , meaning to give someone bad advice

    cuppa:   cuppa tea, cuppa milo

    cuz:   cousin

     D 

    dag:   humorous person, joker, comedian, hard case

    dairy:   corner store, the only shop allowed to open 365 days a year, selling milk, bread, newspapers, groceries, etc on a small scale.

    dear:   expensive, as in 'gosh, thats dear'

    dole:   unemployment benefit

    dodgy:   bad, unreliable

    doodackie:   variant of thingummybob or doodad, for an object that you can't think of a name for

    down the gurgler - failed plan

    dreaded lurgy:   cold or flu

    dressing gown:   bathrobe

    drop in it:   get someone in trouble, as in 'you really dropped me in it with the wife'

    drop your gear:   get undressed

    dunny:   toilet, bathroom, lavatory

    duvet:   quilt, doona

    dux:   academically top student in final year of high school

     E 

    eh:   pronounced 'ay', often used to turn a statement into a question, 'That was a good movie, eh?', often used instead of what? or pardon?

    ear bashing - someone talking incessantly


    entree - appetizer, hors d'oeurve

    Eketahuna:   the archetypal small country city lacking amenities and which no one is expected to know anything about, similar to "timbuktu". This town does exist.

     F 

    fair go:   appeal for fairness or reasonableness

    fancy:   to like someone, as in 'he fancies her'

    fart sack:   bed

    fitter and turner:   a cook who fits food into pots and turns it into ***

    fizz boat - small power boat

    fizzy drink:   soda pop

    flat stick or flat tack:   full speed, as fast as possible, as in 'he was going flat stick when I saw him'

    flog - steal, rob

    fortnight:   two consecutive weeks

    fuckwit:   idiot

    full tit:   as much power as possible, or very fast, as in 'I gave her full tit and we were still only doing 70'

     G 

    g'day:   universal kiwi greeting, also spelled gidday

    get off the grass:   disbelief, similar to 'stop pulling my leg'

    get the willies - overcome with trepidation

    gimme:   give me ..

    gizza:   give us a ..

    going bush:   get away from it all, take a break, become reclusive

    good on ya, mate!:   congratulations, well done

    good as gold:   good job, well done, not a problem, yes

    greasies:   fish and chips

    ground floor:   first floor

    gumboots, gummies:   rubber boots, wellingtons

    guts for garters:   in big trouble, as in 'I'll have your guts for garters!'

     H 

    half pie:   half heatedly or poorly performed

    hangi:   traditional Maori earth oven

    Handle - pint of beer

    Happy as larry - very happy

    hard case:   joker, comedian, witty person

    hard yakka:   hard work

    heaps:   a lot, as in 'heaps of work to do' or 'give it heaps'

    home and hosed:   safe, completed successfully

    hoodackie:   what you call someone when you cant think of their name, similar to doodackie, thingummy etc

    hoon:   young adult with a fast car and loud stereo

    hooray:   goodbye

    hosing down:   raining heavily

    hottie:   hot water bottle

    how much would you charge to haunt a ten room house?:   rhetorical question to suggest a person is ugly

    how's it going mate?:   quintessential kiwi greeting

     I 

    ice block:   Popsicle , ice stick

    if your brains were barbed wire you couldn't fence a dunny:   you are stupid

     J

    jack up:   to organise, as in 'I'll see if I can jack something up'

    jandal:   thongs, flip-flops

    jersey:   sweater

    jumper:   also sweater

     K

    kai:   food, from the Maori word for eating

    Kiwi:   New Zealander

    kiwi:   a flightless native bird, endangered

    kiwifruit:   Zespri, formerly known as a chinese gooseberry

    kick the bucket:   die

    knackered:   stuffed, exhausted

    Knuckle sandwhich - a fist in the teeth, punch in the mouth

     L 

    ladies a plate:   please bring a dish of food to share

    laughing gear:   mouth, as in wrap your laughing gear around this said by Barry Crump in a 1987 TV ad

    Lift - elevator

    L&P:   fizzy soda water, Lemon & Paeroa (L&P); originally lemon flavoured spring water from the town of Paeroa, but this is no longer the case.

    long drop:   outdoor toilet built over hole in ground

    Loo - bathroom, toilet

    Lurgy - flu

     M 

    Maori:   indigenous people of New Zealand

    mad as a meat axe - very angry or crazy

    mate:   buddy, can be used even with strangers, as in 'how's it going mate?'

    metal road:   a road with a gravel surface, usually a country road

    morning tea:   short break (10-15mins) from work in the morning

    Motorway - freeway

    mountain oysters:   lambs testicles

    Mum:   Mom, Mam

    my *** is a red cabbage:   expression of confidence, as in ' if he can do that, my *** is a red cabbage'

     N 

    naff off - go away, get lost, leave me alone

    nana:   grandmother

    nappy:   diaper

    nick away:   to leave, usually quickly and surreptitiously, as in 'I'm going to nick away before the speeches, ok?'

    O 

    OE:   Overseas Experience, the young Kiwi's mandatory working holiday abroad.

    Other Side:   Australia, the other side of the water

    Old bomb - old car

    Open slather - a free-for-all

     P

    pack a sad:   become morose, ill-humoured, broken or dead, as in 'the washing machine packed a sad'

    pakeha:   non-Maori person

    Panel beater - auto repair shop, panel shop

    pav:   pavlova, a national dessert topped with kiwifruit. The recipe.

    piece-of-piss:   easy, as in 'that was a piece of piss'

    pikelet:   small pancake often served with jam and whipped cream

    piker:   slacker, a person who gives up when things get difficult

    piss:   any alcohol

    piss around:   waste time, procrastinate, muck around

    piss awful:   very unpleasant

    piss easy:   very easy

    Pisshead - someone who drinks a lot of alcohol, heavy drinker

    piss up large:   large scale drinking of alcohol

    piss up:   party, social gathering

    pissed:   drunk, inebriated

    pissed off:   angry, upset

    pissing down:   raining heavily, pouring down

    plonk - cheap liquor, cheap wine

    prang:   minor car accident, as in 'he was in a prang yesterday'

    puckeroo:   something that is buggered or broken

    pudding:   dessert

    pushing up daisies - dead and buried

     Q 

    quite nice:   something you say when you want to be polite but can't really think of anything to say, as in 'his tie is quite nice'

    Quack - Medical doctor

    R 

    randy - horny, wanting sex

    rark up - telling somebody off

    rattle your dags:   get a move on, hurry up

    rellies:   relatives, family

    root:   to have sex

    rough as guts:   unpolished

    rust bucket - decrepit motor car

    S 

    sammy short of a picnic:   brick short of a load, a bit thick or crazy

    savs and pavs:   saveloys and pavlova, traditional kiwi party food

    scull:   drink beer quickly

    scarce as hens teeth - very scarce, rare

    Scarfie - university student

    she'll be right:   common attitude, meaning everything will be OK, it's not a problem

    shark and taties:   fish and chips

    Sheila - slang for woman/femalehit a brick:   exclamation of surprise or annoyance

    *** show:   no chance, as in 'he hasn't a *** show of winning'

    shitheap:   utter mess, as in 'your bedroom is a shitheap'

    sickie:   to take a day off, apparently sick

    smoko:   break, rest period

    snarky:   sarcastic and nasty

    sook:   silly or a scaredy cat, as in 'just a big sook'

    sparkie:   electrician

    sparrow fart - very early in the morning, sunrise

    spud - potato

    strapped for cash:   low on funds

    stuffed:   tired, exhausted

    stubby - small glass bottle of beer

    Sunday driver - someone who drives very slow

    sunnies:   sunglasses

    super loo:   large automated public toilets

    suss:   figure out, as in 'I've got it sussed'

    T 

    ta:   thanks

    tata:   goodbye

    take-aways:   food purchase to be taken away and eaten, 'take-outs' or 'to go'

    take the piss (out of smth/smbd):   to ridicule

    take a hike:   go away

    tea:   dinner, evening meal

    tiki tour:   scenic tour, roundabout way

    tin-***, tinbum:   lucky person

    tinny:   lucky

    torch - flashlight

    tramping:   to walk through bush, hiking

    togs:   swimsuit, bathing suit

    two-thirds of five-eighths of *** all:   very little

    U 

    up *** creak in leaky gumboots:   in trouble, variant of up *** creek without a paddle

    ute:   utility vehicle, small pickup truck

    V 

    vegemite:   yeast based spread for toast or bread. Seems to be a taste acquired from childhood, but missed by many ex-pats

    W

    Wally - clown, silly person

    Waikikamukau:   Mythical town that is so remote it makes Eketahuna look like a metropolis. The essence of hickdom. (pronounced "Why kick a moo cow").

    were you born in a tent?:   sarcastic question asked of somebody who has left a door open and let draughts in

    wharfie:   stevedore

    what's that got to do with the price of fish?:   challenging the relevance of some remark

    whinge:   complain

    wobbly:   tantrum, as in 'he threw a wobbly when he heard that'

    wop-wops:   out of the way location, backblocks

    wouldn't know *** from clay:   naive or stupid person

    wouldn't know them from a bar of soap:   I do not know this person, similar to I wouldn't know them from Adam.

    (out in the) Wop-wops - situated off the beaten track, out of the way location

     X Y Z

    yonks:   a long time, ages, as in 'haven't seen him in yonks'

    yack:   conversation between friends, natter

    you ain't wrong:   you're right

    you get that:   resigned acceptance, as in 'well with her sort, you get that'

    you make a better door than a window:   said to somebody standing in the way, perhaps in front of the TV

    you think you're a flowerpot because you've got a hole in your bum:   you love yourself

    zambuck:   St John Ambulance officer.

    zed:   Z  


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  •  08-14-2006, 10:48 AM 49840 in reply to 44084

    Re: Primul pas ... Engleza

    Multe nu sunt expresii de jargon si se gasesc in engleza britanica: boot, torch, Mum, fizzy drink,...(mai sunt si altele, dar ma limitez la astea).
    The infinite is in the finite of every instant. (Zen)
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