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  •  10-07-2005, 09:17 PM 21218

    negociera salariului

    Am spicuit de ici de colo, in principal de pe quintcareers si kiwicareers, ce am considerat cel mai relevant pt cei care se trezesc intr-o tara noua si se vad in situatia de a cauta un job intr-un sistem diferit fata de cel cu care poate au fost obisnuiti. am lasat totul in engleza, imi dau seama ca poate pt unii ar fi mai la indemina sa citeasca direct in romaneste, dar cine vrea sa isi gaseasca de munca intr-o tara de limba engleza trebuie sa fie in stare sa faca fata unui interviu sustinut in aceasta limba.Yes [Y]


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  •  10-07-2005, 09:21 PM 21219 in reply to 21218

    Re: negociera salariului

    Get the best job offer possible using the tactics in this free salary negotiation tutorial for job-seekers

    Getting the salary and benefits you desire can be a tricky process of the job-hunting process. This free tutorial will take you through the major steps and decisions you will be faced with in the salary negotiation process -- the art and strategy (along with the tactics) you need to understand and use in order to get the compensation package you deserve.

    The next 40+ pages will give you the inside information and expert tips you need to excel in this very important part of job-hunting. We cover the basics of salary negotiation as well as advanced tips and strategies -- for all job-seekers.

    The key to successful salary negotiation is research and information. By taking this free tutorial, you are on your way to achieving your salary and benefit goals.

    Two Most important Principles in Salary Negotiation

    1. Delay any discussion of salary as long as possible.
    2. Know what you are worth in the marketplace.

    Three Stages of Employers' Thinking About Salary

    • Budget
    • Fudgit
    • Judgit

    The Budget Stage of Salary Negotiation

    • Occurs when employers first talk to you.
    • They are looking to spend as little as possible.
    • They start screening out people who are not in that range.

    The BUDGET stage is the most rigid and refers to living within one’s means (or a company living within its means).

    The Fudgit Stage of Salary Negotiation

    • Employer still sees income as constant but is willing to shuffle the outgo to make room for new things.
    • He or she is thinking in the FUDGIT stage that maybe he or she can meet your salary request by juggling some things around.
    • The key word is maybe. Purchases (and hires) are very rarely completed in the FUDGIT stage.

    The Judgit Stage of Salary Negotiation

    • The employer takes an objective but creative look at the desired employee and sees the person not as a liability but as a money-saving asset and makes an offer in line with the prospective employee’s expectations.
    • If you reveal your salary history or salary requirements while they are in the BUDGET stage, you can be screened out and never get a chance to interview and move them to the JUDGIT stage.

    When to Negotiate Salary - You are really not in a position to negotiate until the employer is ready to make an offer or actually makes an offer.

    Your Competitive Market Value - Base your salary negotiations on your competitive market value.

    • Compensation should be arrived at by first determining your value to the prospective employer.
    • This analysis must be based on how you will contribute to the profitability of the employer’s company.

    How to determine your competitive market value:

    • Look up salary surveys in your field or even popular magazines (e.g. Working Woman puts out an annual salary survey).
    • Ask other people in your field; do an informal survey of people in your profession. Use your network! Best choices: college students -- last year’s grads from your major; experienced job-seekers -- people in your professional or industry association.
    • Check the Internet for salary-survey information. (More on these Web sites later in this tutorial.)

    More Ways of Determining Your Competitive Market Value - More ways to determine your competitive market value:

    • Printed materials, such as the Occupational Outlook Handbook. You can look online and search the Occupational Outlook Handbook.
    • Professional associations and trade journals in your field.
    • Word-of-mouth from Career Services Offices, recruiters, employment agents, personnel professionals and your own network.
    • Call similar companies directly and ask their salary ranges for the type of job you seek.

    Salary Negotiation Before the Interview - Salary negotiation can start BEFORE the interview :

    Employer Requesting Salary Requirements - What if an employer asks for your salary requirement or history in a want ad or job posting? If salary is the most important issue to you . . . you have less of a problem. If you are flexible about salary . . . responding about salary to a want ad is trickier.

    Options When Responding to a Want Ad

    • Avoid the salary issue altogether. Ignore the request for salary requirement/history.
    • Say your salary requirement is negotiable.
    • State your current salary and say your requirement is negotiable.
    • Say you are earning market value for someone in your field. Or you expect to earn market value for someone with your educational background.
    • Give a range in which the low-end figure is 10 percent above your current salary.

    The Salary Screening Phone Call - If you don’t give a salary requirement, you may receive a salary-screening phone call. Politely ask what salary range they’re considering for the position: "I know we don’t want to waste each other’s time if we’re way far apart on salary. May I ask you, though, what is the range you’re considering at this time for the position?"

    Working Around the Salary Issue - If they won’t give you a range and won’t schedule the interview unless you give your salary range, respond this way: "Depending on the management philosophy of the company, overtime hours required, training and support available, medical and dental benefits, commuting and travel time, how well it fits with my long term career goals and opportunity for advancement, bonuses, commissions, and other profit-sharing type compensation, my salary expectations range from $XX to $YY. [Give a VERY WIDE range.] "I'm free [X day and time] for an interview. Which time would work for you?"

    When Salary Comes Up Early in an Interview - The ideal time for a discussion of salary is deep into the interviewing process when both you and the employer have a strong interest in one another. There will be times, however, when an employer will attempt to engage you in a discussion of compensation early in the interviewing process. When salary comes up early in the interview (what to say if you’re asked about salary), you have three options:

    Option One: Delaying Tactics - How to handle the early discussion of salary and compensation in a job interview.

    • Employer: "I assume you've seen our advertised salary range. Are you willing to accept a salary within that range?"
    • Job-Seeker: "I applied for this position because I am very interested in the job and your company, and I know I can make an immediate impact once on the job, but I’d like to table salary discussions until we are both sure I’m right for the job."

    Option Two: The Nonspecific Response - How to handle the early discussion of salary and compensation in a job interview.

    • Employer: "What would it take for you to accept a job offer with us?"
    • Job-Seeker: "As long as you pay a fair market value, and the responsibilities fit my skill level, we’ll have no problem."

    OR

    • Job-Seeker: "I feel my salary should be based on the responsibilities of the job and the standards of the industry."

    Option Three: Throw it Back to the Employer - How to handle the early discussion of salary and compensation in a job interview.

    • Employer: "If you were to receive a job offer from us, would you accept it"
    • Job-Seeker: "While I am very interested in the job and the company, it really depends on the offer. What would a person with my background, skills, and qualifications typically earn in this position with your company?"

    Salary Negotiation at a later Interview - There are four possibilities when salary is raised during the interview:

    • the salary range is acceptable;
    • only the top of the salary range is acceptable;
    • the entire salary range is unacceptable;
    • the interviewer doesn't give a salary range.

    When the Salary Range is Acceptable - Handling an employer's job offer. Be sure to thank the employer for the offer, but be non-committal:

    • Employer: "The salary range for this position is $xx,xxx to $xx,xxx. Are you able to accept a salary within that range?"
    • Job-Seeker: "I really appreciate the confidence you have in making this job offer to me. I want to bring my talents and skills to work for this organization. Those figures you mentioned are within my expected starting range, depending on the entire salary and benefits package."

    When Only the Top of the Salary Range is Acceptable - Handling an employer's job offer. Be sure to thank the employer for the offer, but be non-committal:

    • Employer: "The salary range for this position is $xx,xxx to $xx,xxx. Are you able to accept a salary within that range?"
    • Job-Seeker: "Thanks so much for asking me to be a part of your team. I know my unique mix of skills and abilities will be a great benefit to the organization. Based upon my research and what I've been discussing with other companies that are currently interested, I would have to say that only the upper end of that range would be acceptable."

    When the Entire Salary Range is Unacceptable - Handling an employer's job offer. Be sure to thank the employer for the offer, but be non-committal:

    • Employer: "The salary range for this position is $xx,xxx to $xx,xxx. Are you able to accept a salary within that range?"
    • Job-Seeker: "Thank you so much for the offer. I want to bring my skills and talents to your organization. The other companies I am currently speaking with, however, are considering me at a salary somewhat higher than that range. Of course, money is only one element, and I will be evaluating each overall package."

    When the Interviewer Doesn't Give a Salary Range - Handling an employer's job offer when the interviewer doesn't make you a specific salary offer and instead keeps pushing you for your salary expectations.

    • Employer: "We want to get you onboard. What kind of salary would it take for you to accept a position with us?"
    • Job-Seeker: "From my research, $X is around the base level for salary for this type of position. Considering my enthusiasm and my general success in the things I set out to do, I believe I’m worth mid-range, say $Y. What can you do in that area?"

    When Salary Comes up Late in an Interview - It means the interviewer is really interested in hiring you. One option: "I’m ready to consider your best offer."

    When the Interviewer Mentions an Acceptable Salary - "I would encourage you to make the formal offer. What is most important is the opportunity to work for you and your company. I am confident your offer will be competitive."

    Cautions for New Grads (si pentru proaspeti imigranti adaug eu, pt ca e oarescum aceeasi situatie: nu aveti inca experienta pietei de munca locale) Please be careful! Your tendency is to be so glad that someone is offering you a job, that you accept whatever they offer with a beggar’s nod and smile.

    Guiding Philosophies for New Grads

    • The employer is choosing you, not your price. They really want to hire you! They think you’ll make or even save them money!
    • If you think you have "no experience," remember the qualities that make you successful.
    • Their hiring decision is 95-percent based on your personality, enthusiasm, and transferable skills. Only 5 percent has to do with your specialized knowledge. Since they can’t teach manners and common sense, they hire it.
    • You must have the ability to do the work, or they wouldn’t be making you an offer.

    When the Official Salary Offer is Made - When the offer is made, ask questions that have not yet been answered:

    • What are the promotional opportunities of this position?
    • To what position/level?
    • How and when will my performance be reviewed?
    • Will this include a salary review?
    • What kind of salary progression would be expected in the first three to five years?

    Be sure to get the complete salary offer in writing!

    When the offer is made, be sure to evaluate the entire compensation package - not just salary. Benefits can add up to 30 percent to your total compensation! Here are some commonly offered benefits:

    • Medical insurance. Employers get a group rate, so even if you have to contribute part or all of the contribution, it still is cheaper than you could get on your own.
    • Dental insurance. Not included in most (if not all) medical plans, so you may want this coverage. Gaining in popularity, and, again, often at a cheaper rate than you could get on your own.
    • Optical/eye care insurance. Eye exams, glasses or contact lenses, and other eye-related issues are not covered by most medical plans, so you might want a separate plan.
    • What kind of salary progression would be expected in the first three to five years? What is the average range of raises? Are there performance-based raises and bonuses?
    • Life insurance. Something we often don't like to think about it, but many organizations provide basic term coverage, which you can add to, to provide more coverage for your family.
    • Accidental death insurance. Especially for dangerous jobs, but really for any employee.
    • Business travel insurance. If you travel a lot for the job, it's wise to have extra coverage, just in case.
    • Disability insurance. There are actually two kinds of disability insurance: short-term (up to six months) and long-term (beyond six months). You should really take advantage of this insurance.
    • Vacation Days. Most organizations have a system based on level in the organization and years with the organization. Entry-level workers often start with a week or two of paid vacation.
    • Paid Holidays. Most organizations also have certain holidays when they are closed for business and pay their employees for the day off (such as Thanksgiving, New Year's, Labor Day, etc.).
    • Sick/personal days. Most organizations give employees a certain number of paid sick or personal days per year.
    • 401(k) plans. Pension plans are giving way to 401(k) plans, which are also a retirement vehicle. Money is contributed on a pre-tax basis, offering you both a savings plan and a tax break. Employers often match (or match up to some level) employee contributions.
    • Pension plans. Employer contributions that accumulate over time, but may also require you to be employed a certain period of time to be fully "vested" in the plan.
    • Profit sharing. If you are working for a growing and profitable organization, profit-sharing programs can offer you great year-end bonuses based on the success of the organization or your division.
    • Stock Options/ESOPs. Plans that allow employees to purchase company stock options at below-market prices.
    • Tuition reimbursement. Organizations that want to encourage their employees to gain further education and training offer some form of partial or complete tuition reimbursement.
    • Health clubs. Some organizations get a group discount to health clubs and country clubs for their employees.
    • Dependent care. Some employers a plan for employees to deduct a pre-tax amount for care of dependents. Others subsidize (or even offer) child care.
    • Employee Assistance Program. Free or low-cost counseling offered to employees for dealing with situations such as substance abuse and marital or family problems.
    • Overtime/travel premiums/comp time. Many organizations offer some compensation for employees that work past normal hours -- whether when at the company or traveling on business.
    • Parking, commuting, expense reimbursement. A perk that not many get, but some companies do offer various benefits related to commuting to the company.

    Relocation Expenses - While many higher level positions will also include relocation expenses for new hires, new grads need to be aware that relocation expenses are rarely paid at the entry level. However, whether an organization offers a relocation package depends on many factors, including organizational politics, the economic situation, and the supply-demand balance for job-seekers with your skills and abilities. What's included in a relocation package?

    • House-hunting trip expenses
    • Lodging fees
    • Moving expenses
    • Mortgage/Closing cost fees
    • Brokerage fees
    • Temporary housing expenses
    • Spouse re-employment expenses

    Use Internet Salary Calculators - Use salary calculators on the Internet to compare offers in different locales. Some examples include:

    Finally, there are a couple of places to get specific information about salaries you can expect in different careers. Check out these sites:

    • Salary.com -- truly one of the best places to start to get excellent free information about salaries, by profession and location.
    • JobStar: Profession-Specific Salary Surveys -- which provides links to salary information on 35 professions as well as links to other occupational salary sites.
    • SalaryExpert.com -- a great source for salary information in the U.S., Canada, and internationally.

    Turning an Unacceptable Offer to an Acceptable One - Determine what it will take to make an unacceptable offer acceptable, and what items are negotiable:

    • Monetaries
      • Salary
      • Promised increases
      • Yearly bonuses
      • Signing bonuses
      • Profit sharing
      • Stock option/ESOPs
    • Near-Monetaries
      • Benefits
      • Overtime/Comp time
      • Company car
      • Travel awards
      • Relocation assistance
      • Expense coverage
    • Non-Monetaries
      • Title
      • Training/Education
      • Access to technology
      • Promised review dates
      • Travel assignments
      • Home equipment usage

    Deciding Whether to Accept the Offer - Use the time-honored balance-sheet decision technique to decide whether to accept:

    • List reasons for accepting;
    • List reasons against accepting.
    THEN make a decision!
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  •  10-08-2005, 05:23 PM 21288 in reply to 21218

    Re: negociera salariului

    Fundamentals of a Good Chronological Resume  (CV)

    by Randall S. Hansen, Ph.D.

    You probably have about 30 seconds to convince a potential employer that you deserve an interview. A resume summarizes your accomplishments, your education, and your work experience, and should reflect your strengths.

    What follows is an outline of a typical chronological resume -- best suited for entry-level job-seekers or those who have stayed in the same field. Career changers and those job-seekers with varied work experiences and accomplishments may want to utilize a functional resume style. Here are the key components of a standard chronological resume:

    Identification It is essential that a potential employer can reach you. This section should include your name, address, phone number(s), and e-mail address. If a college student, this section might also include a school address and a permanent home address.

    Job Objective A job objective is optional and should only be included for new college grads and those changing careers. Otherwise, use your cover letter to show your career interests and job objective. If you do use an objective, make sure your objective explains the kind of work you want to do, and keep it between two to four typed lines.

    Key Accomplishments Some resume experts are suggesting adding a section that highlights your key accomplishments and achievements. Think of this section as an executive summary of your resume; identify key accomplishments that will grab the attention of an employer. This section should summarize (using nouns as keywords and descriptors) your major accomplishments and qualifications This section can also be labeled "Professional Profile," "Summary of Accomplishments," "Key Skills," "Summary of Qualifications," or "Qualifications."

    Education For new college grads, this entry should be your next. For others with full-time work experience, this section should follow your experience section. This section should include school(s) attended (including years of attendance), majors/minors, degrees, and honors and awards received. For new grads only: There appears to be a growing trend of employers wanting your GPA in this section. If you decide to do so, make sure to use the GPA that puts you in the best light -- either overall GPA, school or college GPA, or major GPA.

    Professional Experience This section can also be labeled "Experience, "Work History," or "Employment." We like using experience -- especially for new college grads, because experience is broader than work history, allowing you to include major school projects that showcase your skills and abilities. This section should include company name, your job title, dates of employment, and major accomplishments. List experiences in reverse chronological order, starting with your most current experience. List your accomplishments in bullet format (rather than paragraph format). Avoid discussing job duties or responsibilities. If you don't have a lot of career-related job experience, consider using transferable skills to better highlight your work experience. Finally, make sure to make use of action verbs when describing your accomplishments.

    Affiliations/Interests This section is optional; include only if you have room on your resume for it. Items from this section are often used as an ice-breaker by interviewers looking to start an interview on an informal basis. This section should only include professional memberships and non-controversial activities/interests.

    References Many experts say this section is passe, but if you have room, include it. If nothing else, this section signals the end of your resume. This section should only include a statement saying references are available upon request. Do not include the names of your references on your resume.


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  •  10-08-2005, 05:34 PM 21291 in reply to 21218

    Re: negociera salariului

    Job Offer Too Low? Use These Key Salary Negotiation Techniques to Write a Counter Proposal Letter

    by Randall S. Hansen, Ph.D.

    Here's an ideal scenario: After a grueling number of job interviews with a prospective employer who is hiring someone for the job of your dreams, you're again meeting with the hiring manager when she turns to face you and gives you the job offer, but at a salary below what you had expected. You are still excited, elated actually, but what you do next could have consequences for years to come.

    Even if the job offer is acceptable to you, most career experts agree that you should take the time to clear your head and consider the offer -- away from the pressure of an interview. So, make sure to thank the interviewer for the job offer and express your interest in the job and the company, but ask for some time to consider all the details.

    But what if the offer is unacceptable to you? If it really is one of your dream jobs -- or even simply a job you really want -- you should consider moving into the negotiation phase by making a counter proposal to the employer. That's what this article is all about -- taking you through the key negotiation strategies you should apply and providing you with one key tool -- the counter proposal letter -- as a means to negotiating a better offer for yourself.

    Key Salary Negotiation Strategies

    1. Delay salary and benefit negotiations for as long as possible in the interview process. You’ll have more power to negotiate when the field of candidates has been reduced to just you -- when the employer is completely sold on you as the best candidate for the position.
    2. Remember that you'll have your greatest negotiation leverage between the time the employer makes the original offer and the time you accept the final offer. Once you accept an offer, you have little to no room to negotiate.
    3. Don't negotiate at the time the initial job offer is made. Thank the employer for the offer and express your strong interest and enthusiasm in the job, but state that you'll need time to evaluate the entire compensation package. Most employers are willing to give you a fair amount of time to review -- and if you run across an employer who wants a decision immediately, consider long and hard whether you want to work for such a company.
    4. Do your research. The greatest tool in any negotiation is information. Make sure you have done a thorough job of determining your fair market value for the job you are seeking, the salary range of the job for this specific employer, and geographic, economic, industry, and company-specific factors that might affect the given salary. Also try to obtain information on the employer's standard benefits package so that you have information beyond salary.
    5. Just do it. While a large percentage of corporate recruiters (four out of five in one study conducted by the Society for Human Resource Management) are willing to negotiate compensation, only a small percentage of job-seekers actually do so. You don't have to be an expert negotiator to get a sweeter deal; you just need to know the rules and strategies of negotiation.
    6. Negotiate to your strength. If you are a smooth talker (an extravert), call the employer and ask for a follow-up meeting to discuss a counter proposal. If you communicate better in writing, follow our guidelines for writing a counter proposal letter (below).
    7. Always ask for a higher salary (within acceptable limits) than you are willing to accept so that when the employer counters your proposal, the salary should be near your original goal. And when possible, try and show how your actions (once on board) will recoup the extra amount (or more) that you are seeking -- through cost savings or increased sales revenue, productivity, efficiencies.
    8. If the salary you're offered is on the low end -- and the employer has stated that salary is not negotiable (probably due to corporate salary ranges or pay grade levels), consider negotiating for a signing bonus, higher performance bonuses, or a shorter time frame for a performance review and raise. Always negotiate base salary first, and then move on to other elements of the job offer.
    9. When presenting a counter proposal to the employer, be sure and include a few benefits that are expendable so that you can drop them in a concession to the employer as negotiations continue.
    10. Remember that even if all salary issues are "off the table," there are still numerous other benefits you can negotiate, such as moving expenses, paid vacation or personal days, professional training, and more. See the sidebar for the entire list of negotiable items.
    11. Never stop selling yourself throughout the negotiation process. Keep reminding the employer of the impact you will make, the problems you will solve, the revenue you will generate. And continue expressing interest and enthusiasm for the job and the company.
    12. If you have no intention of accepting the company's offer, don't waste your time or the company's by entering into negotiation. Negotiation is a process designed to find common ground between two or more parties.
    13. If you have multiple job offers, don't put the companies into a bidding war for your services; it rarely works out.
    14. Don't enter negotiations with the wrong attitude. Always have in the back of your mind that your goal with these negotiations is a win-win situation. You want to get a better deal, but you also need to let the employer feel as though they got a good deal as well.
    15. Given a number of factors, such as the strength of the economy, the size and vitality of the company, and the supply of job candidates with similar qualifications, some employers simply will not negotiate.
    16. Never make demands. Instead, raise questions and make requests during negotiations. Keep the tone conversational, not confrontational.
    17. Be prepared for any of a number of possible reactions to your counter proposal, from complete acceptance to agreeing to some concessions to refusal to negotiate.
    18. You have to be willing to walk away from negotiations. If you don't have a strong position (a good current job or one or more current or potential job offers), it will be harder for you to negotiate. If you really need or want the job, be more careful in your negotiations.
    19. Once the employer agrees to your compensation requests, the negotiations are over. You cannot ask for anything more -- or risk appearing immature or greedy and having the employer's offer withdrawn or rescinded.
    20. Always be sure to get the final offer in writing. Be extremely wary of companies that are not willing to do so. Note: one advantage of writing a counter proposal letter is that you list the terms of the offer in your letter.

    Writing the Counter Proposal Letter While there is not a specific formula to writing a successful counter proposal letter, there is a basic structure you can follow for maximum likelihood of success.

    First Paragraph: Statement of Interest and Enthusiasm for Job/Company; Key Selling Factors
    This paragraph is critical in setting up the tone and direction of the negotiations. Be direct and sincere in expressing your interest for the company, thanking the employer for the job offer. Be sure to follow-up with your key selling points -- how you will make a direct and immediate (or longer-term) impact on the organization.

    Second Paragraph: Negotiating Item #1 -- Offer and Counter Proposal
    Restate the particular point from the original offer that you wish to negotiate, followed by your counter proposal -- ideally supported through research, a desire to be fairly compensated, or reinforced by the value you will bring to the company.

    Third Paragraph: Negotiating Item #2 -- Offer and Counter Proposal
    Restate the particular point from the original offer that you wish to negotiate, followed by your counter proposal -- ideally supported through research, a desire to be fairly compensated, or reinforced by the value you will bring to the company.

    Fourth Paragraph: Negotiating Item #3 -- Offer and Counter Proposal
    Restate the particular point from the original offer that you wish to negotiate, followed by your counter proposal -- ideally supported through research, a desire to be fairly compensated, or reinforced by the value you will bring to the company.

    Fifth Paragraph: Negotiating Item #4 -- Offer and Counter Proposal
    Restate the particular point from the original offer that you wish to negotiate, followed by your counter proposal -- ideally supported through research, a desire to be fairly compensated, or reinforced by the value you will bring to the company.

    Concluding Paragraph: Conciliatory Comments with Strong Moving-Forward Statement
    Stress that your requests are modest and that your potential impact is great -- and that you look forward to accepting the job offer and getting a jump-start on the position as soon as possible.

    You can also include paragraphs for items of the original proposal that you completely agree on -- doing so makes the letter seem more balanced and that you are not picking apart the entire offer.

    You can also include paragraphs for any items in the offer that you need clarification- - or where you are seeking more information, typically for complex issues such as confidentiality and non-compete agreements, bonus plans.


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  •  10-08-2005, 05:42 PM 21293 in reply to 21218

    Re: negociera salariului

    un exemplu de counter proposal offer:


    Lisa Lively
    3428 Talamas Drive SE
    Clemson, SC 29631
    864-555-3483

    Mr. Frank Ian
    Director, Industrial Systems
    General Electric Company
    41 Woodford Avenue
    Plainville, CT 06062

    Dear Frank:

    I am excited about the offer you extended on June 21, 2002, and look forward to accepting it. I feel confident I will make a significant contribution to the growth and profitability of General Electric’s Industrial Systems division over the short and long term. The terms you have described in the offer are acceptable, with a few minor changes.

    Base Salary: $55,000 per annum
    The research I’ve done on comparable salaries and cost of living differences between Clemson and Plainville show that a base salary of $75,000 would be the market value of my experience for this position. The current offer of $55,000 would result in a dramatic reduction in living standard. Based on the above, I would like you to consider as a compromise a base salary of $65,000.

    Bonus Opportunity: 3% of quarterly team results above stated quotas
    Because I expect to have an immediate impact on both cost-savings and increased sales revenues, I would like to suggest increasing the bonus percentage 6% of results above quota.

    Relocation Package: GE will compensate up to $10,000 for your reasonable costs incurred for relocation to Plainville, CT. Further, GE will provide temporary living assistance and reimburse for any commuting for up to 6 months from date of hire.
    As far as relocation is concerned, I feel your relocation package is quite generous and I appreciate the company’s policy.

    Stock Option Plan: developed and implemented after 1 year of service
    If this policy is standard for all employees, I can accept it, but again, I am convinced that I will make an immediate impact on a key division of GE, and I would like to see the stock option plan developed in the first six months of employment.

    Benefits Package: standard employee benefits package
    In discussing the standard benefits package with Jim Cline in HR, I am quite pleased with the GE benefits package. I would only ask that the waiting period for these benefits be waived.

    Start Date: July 15, 2002
    I am actually available to start to telecommute as early as next week -- as soon as we agree on the final aspects of the offer.

    If you could see to making these modest improvements to your offer, my performance will show you a handsome return. I am prepared to hit the ground running as part of the GE Industrial Systems team, and achieve the next “home run” for this division.

    Sincerely,



    Lisa Lively


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  •  10-08-2005, 05:47 PM 21295 in reply to 21218

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    Salary Negotiation Do's and Don'ts

    by Randall S. Hansen, Ph.D.

    Here are the keys to successful salary negotiation. Follow these simple rules and you should achieve success in this important strategic tool of job-hunting.

    • Do make sure you’ve done your research on the salary you should expect for the position you’re seeking. And do use sources such as salary.com and others.

    • Don't bring up salary before the employer does. And do delay salary negotiation for as long as possible (until you know exactly what the position entails).

    • Do be aware of your strengths and achievements. And do be sure to demonstrate the value you’ll bring to the employer.

    • Do let the employer make the first salary offer. And do, if asked, say you expect a salary that is competitive with the market - or give a salary range that you find acceptable.

    • Don't inflate your current earnings just to get a higher salary offer.

    • Don't feel obligated to accept the first salary offer. And do negotiate salary if the offer made is inadequate.

    • Don't get overly aggressive in negotiating the salary you want.

    • Don't just focus on salary. Do look at the entire compensation package.

    • Do try to obtain other concessions (shorter review time, better title, better workspace) or benefits (bonuses, vacation time) if you aren’t successful at negotiating a salary you want.

    • Don't enter salary negotiations as part of an ego trip or part of a game.

    • Don't accept the first acceptable salary offer you receive if you’re not sure about the job or the company.

    • Do get the offer in writing.

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  •  10-08-2005, 06:07 PM 21296 in reply to 21218

    Re: negociera salariului

    si bineinteles, inainte de a ajunge la stadiul de negociere a salariului si a intregului pachet, trebuie sa va prezentati bine pregatiti la interviu. citeva pointere:

    Job Interviewing Do's and Don'ts

    by Randall S. Hansen, Ph.D.

    Here are the keys to successful job interviewing. Follow these simple rules and you should achieve success in this important phase of job-hunting.

    • Do take a practice run to the location where you are having the interview -- or be sure you know exactly where it is and how long it takes to get there.

    • Do your research and know the type of job interview you will be encountering. And do prepare and practice for the interview, but don't memorize or over-rehearse your answers.

    • Do dress the part for the job, the company, the industry. And do err on the side of conservatism.

    • Do plan to arrive about 10 minutes early. Late arrival for a job interview is never excusable. If you are running late, do phone the company.

    • Do greet the receptionist or assistant with courtesy and respect. This is where you make your first impression.

    • Don't chew gum during the interview.

    • If presented with a job application, do fill it out neatly, completely, and accurately.

    • Do bring extra resumes to the interview. (Even better, if you have a job skills portfolio, do bring that with you to the interview.)

    • Don't rely on your application or resume to do the selling for you. No matter how qualified you are for the position, you will need to sell yourself to the interviewer.

    • Do greet the interviewer(s) by title (Ms., Mr., Dr.) and last name if you are sure of the pronunciation. (If you're not sure, do ask the receptionist about the pronunciation before going into the interview.

    • Do shake hands firmly. Don't have a limp or clammy handshake!

    • Do wait until you are offered a chair before sitting. And do remember body language and posture: sit upright and look alert and interested at all times. Don't fidget or slouch.

    • Don't tell jokes during the interview.

    • Do make good eye contact with your interviewer(s).

    • Do show enthusiasm in the position and the company.

    • Don't smoke, even if the interviewer does and offers you a cigarette. And don't smoke beforehand so that you smell like smoke. And do brush your teeth, use mouthwash, or have a breath mint before the interview.

    • Do avoid using poor language, slang, and pause words (such as "like," "uh," and "um").

    • Don't be soft-spoken. A forceful voice projects confidence.

    • Do have a high confidence and energy level, but don't be overly aggressive.

    • Don't act as though you would take any job or are desperate for employment.

    • Do avoid controversial topics.

    • Don't say anything negative about former colleagues, supervisors, or employers.

    • Do make sure that your good points come across to the interviewer in a factual, sincere manner.

    • Don't ever lie. Answer questions truthfully, frankly and succinctly. And don't over-answer questions.

    • Do stress your achievements. And don't offer any negative information about yourself.

    • Don't answer questions with a simple "yes" or "no." Explain whenever possible. Describe those things about yourself that showcase your talents, skills, and determination. Give examples.

    • Do show off the research you have done on the company and industry when responding to questions.

    • Don't bring up or discuss personal issues or family problems.

    • Do remember that the interview is also an important time for you to evaluate the interviewer and the company she represents.

    • Don't respond to an unexpected question with an extended pause or by saying something like, "boy, that's a good question." And do repeat the question outloud or ask for the question to be repeated to give you a little more time to think about an answer. Also, a short pause before responding is okay.

    • Do always conduct yourself as if you are determined to get the job you are discussing. Never close the door on an opportunity until you are sure about it.

    • Don't answer cell phone calls during the interview, and do turn off (or set to silent ring) your cell phone and/or pager.

    • Do show what you can do for the company rather than what the company can do for you.

    • Don't inquire about salary, vacations, bonuses, retirement, or other benefits until after you've received an offer. Be prepared for a question about your salary requirements, but do try and delay salary talk until you have an offer.
    • Do ask intelligent questions about the job, company, or industry. Don't ever not ask any questions -- it shows a lack of interest.

    • Do close the interview by telling the interviewer(s) that you want the job and asking about the next step in the process. (Some experts even say you should close the interview by asking for the job.)

    • Do try and get business cards from each person you interviewed with -- or at least the correct spelling of their first and last names. And don't make assumptions about simple names -- was it Jon or John -- get the spelling.

    • Do immediately take down notes after the interview concludes so you don't forget crucial details.

    • Do write thank you letters within 24 hours to each person who interviewed you.

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  •  10-08-2005, 06:20 PM 21297 in reply to 21218

    Re: negociera salariului

    Do's and Don'ts for Second (and Subsequent) Job Interviews

    by Katharine Hansen

    It's gratifying to be called for a second or subsequent interview because you are another step closer to the job. Don't blow it now! Read our second-interview do's and don'ts.

    • Do take a practice run to the location where you are having the interview -- or be sure you know exactly where it is and how long it takes to get there.

    • Do pat yourself on the back for being called for a second interview. While some career experts say your chances are 1 in 4 to get the job at this point, others say you have as much as a 50 percent chance. Even with the field narrowing, it's important to distinguish yourself and ensure that you stand out above your competition.

    • Do remember these three words: More, More, More. Compared to the first interview, a second interview will likely involve more preparation, more people, more questions, more intensity, and more pressure -- in addition to more likelihood that you will land the job.

    • Don't neglect to review your performance from your first interview. Note any questions or situations that caused you difficulty and plan how you will handle those aspects better in the second interview. Derive confidence from knowing that if you hadn't performed well in the first interview, you wouldn't have landed the second. Think about what made you shine in the first interview, and plan to do more of the same. Further, brainstorm new information you can bring into the second interview -- new accomplishments, new examples, new evidence of how much you know about the employer.

    • Do prepare -- even more than you did for the first interview. Presumably you researched the company before the first interview. Now it's time to delve even deeper into that research. Some experts suggest that talking with company insiders is one of the most productive ways to prepare for a second interview. Before your second interview, consider conducting informational interviews with company folks who aren't the ones who'll be interviewing you. Consult our Informational Interviewing Tutorial to learn more. If you are a college student, particularly seek out alumni from your school or sorority/fraternity who work for the employer. Also be sure you're up to date on developments in your field or industry by reviewing trade publications.

    • Don't be surprised if the second interview is actually a series of interviews -- in both individual and group/panel formats -- making for a long day. You may interview with managers, senior executives, department heads, and prospective team members. You may also get a tour of the workplace and be taken out to eat. For college students, this second-interview day may represent the first time the student has been interviewed in the employer's workplace. Plan to bring ample copies of your resume for all the people you may be meeting with. Read more in our article, Mastering the On-Site Interview: A Guide to Company Visits.

    • Do try to find out in advance exactly what the agenda will be and whom you can expect to interview with. If you aren't given this information when the interview is set up, contact the assistant of the main person with whom you'll be meeting to see what you can find out. If you see that a workplace tour is not included on the agenda, ask if someone can show you around as time permits.

    • Don't forget the cardinal rule of panel interviews: As you respond to a question, maintain eye contact with everyone on the panel -- not just the panelist who asked the question.

    • Do be up on business dining etiquette if you are asked to dine with representatives of the prospective employer. Check out our Job-Hunting & Business Etiquette Resources.

    • Do get a good night's sleep the night before this potentially grueling day. Also look for opportunities to refresh yourself during the interview day. If there's a break in the action, splash some water on your face or take a brisk walk to rejuvenate. You might want to take along a pocket- or purse-sized snack in case there is no lunch break. Breath spray or a mini-bottle of mouthwash is also not a bad idea. Be careful not to run out of steam toward the end of the day. Maintain your energy, confidence, and enthusiasm.

    • Do be aware that you might be asked to complete psychometric tests dealing with such things as skills, intelligence, and personality. There's not a lot you can do to prepare for them -- but that good night's sleep will help.

    • Don't slack off with your interview attire. A second interview generally doesn't denote a more casual interview. The former Andersen Consulting (now Accenture) had a protocol for the three on-campus interviews it conducted with college students that called for skirted suits for women for the first two interviews. Female candidates were permitted to wear pantsuits to the third interview. Check with company insiders to see what attire is expected for each interview.

    • Do remember these three more words: Fit, Fit, and Fit. A major reason for the second interview is so the employer can see how well you fit in with the company culture. Put yourself inside the employer's head and realize that the interviewers at your second interview want to learn how well you will get along with other team members with whom you'll be interacting with every day. Deploy your very best interpersonal communication skills. Keep in mind the idea of showing your fit -- but remember that it's OK not to fit. If you aren't a good fit with the employer, you probably wouldn't be happy working there anyway. And remember, that this interview is also your opportunity to determine whether the company is a good fit for you. Think about whether you would accept if the employer extended an offer. Read more about fit with company culture in our article, Uncovering a Company's Corporate Culture is a Critical Task for Job-Seekers.

    • Don't neglect to talk to other people beyond those you are interviewing with. Chatting up -- not too excessively -- the receptionist and prospective co-workers serves the dual purpose of giving you a better feel for how much you'd like to be part of this workplace culture, as well as making a positive impression on as many people as possible.

    • Do expect to be asked some of the same questions you were asked in the first interview, but some new ones as well. Second-interview questions may delve more into your personality, or they may be more targeted toward specific technical skills -- or both. Plan to keep your responses fresh yet consistent for each person you meet with during the second-interview, and don't worry about repeating yourself since you will likely have a different audience every time you give roughly the same response. If you've followed the advice above to obtain the full list of interviewers, a good way to keep your answers fresh is to try to find out something about each interviewer and tailor your response specifically to that person. You can also vary your delivery to freshen your responses. Interviewing expert Carole Martin suggests that a good way for the interviewer to get to know about your personality is through the quotes of others; for example, tell the interviewer what your boss would say about you if asked.

    • Do expect behavioral questions, which are commonly asked in second interviews, even if they haven't been in asked in the first interview. See our article, Behavioral Interviewing Strategies. Watch out also for off-the-wall questions. Prepare for those with our article, Don't Get Stumped by Off-the-Wall Job Interview Questions. The second interview is also a likely venue for case questions, especially in consulting firms. See our article, Mastering the Case Interview for how to handle this genre.

    • Do listen for clues that get at the heart of what the employer seeks in the person hired for this position and key into the needs, concerns, issues, and problems that you would be expected to handle.

    • Do prepare for as many kinds of questions as possible. You've already interviewed with this employer, but it wouldn't hurt to do a mock interview with a friend, family member, or career counselor/coach to prepare for the second interview. You may also want to prep with our Practice Interviews.

    • Don't be shocked if some of the people you meet with aren't very competent interviewers. While managers trained in interviewing often conduct first interviewers, the array of people who might talk with you during the second-interview experience may include people lacking skills and training in how to conduct an interview.

    • Do be prepared with lots of questions to ask. You will likely have more opportunity to ask questions in the second interview and will be expected to make more sophisticated inquiries than you did in the first interview. Although these questions are designed for informational interviews, many of them also work in a second-interview situation in which you are attempting to make a personal connection.

    • Do get a feel for what second interviews are like. The University of Kent in the UK offers write-ups that describe second and subsequent interviews at numerous major, international companies.

    • Don't be caught off guard if an interviewer raises the subject of salary and benefits. Be prepared to negotiate. Arm yourself by visiting our Salary Negotiation and Job Offer Tools and Resources, especially our Salary Negotiation and Job Offer Tutorial. You may also be asked about your willingness to travel and relocate, so be ready with your responses.

    • Don't necessarily give an answer immediately if the employer makes an offer. Ask for a few days to think about it.

    • Do ask about the next step in the process if you don't receive an offer. How soon will a decision be made, and how will they let you know?

    • Do try to collect the business card of everyone you meet with. Keep a small notepad handy to write down names in case there's someone from whom you can't get a card.

    • Don't forget the send a thank-you note or e-mail to everyone you meet with. That's right -- every single person. Aren't you glad you collected those business cards? You can write the same basic message to all, but vary it a bit in case they compare notes.

    • Do realize that you have some degree of control if the interview process drags on. A job-seeker who had gone on six interviews with one employer and still had not heard a decision recently sought advice from Ask the Headhunter columnist Nick Corcodilos. Corcodilos's first-choice response was to simply ignore the indecisive company and pursue other opportunities. But he also noted that the job-seeker could offer a polite ultimatum: "I appreciate that you have internal reasons for this taking so long. However, I need to make decisions about some other commitments I'm facing. I'd like to set a deadline for us both, say, two weeks? If your team can't make a decision by that point, I need to withdraw my candidacy for the job and move on. I want you to know how much I've looked forward to working with you. I know I can do this job profitably for you, and I want to join your team."

    • Do remember that most of the guidelines that apply to first interviews also relate to second interviews. Consult our Guide to Job Interviewing Resources.

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  •  10-08-2005, 07:57 PM 21305 in reply to 21218

    Re: negociera salariului

    Avoid These 10 Interview Bloopers

    by Deborah Walker

    We've all heard stories of job candidates who looked great on paper but who were absolute disasters in person. With fewer and fewer interview opportunities available in this competitive market, it's essential to make the best possible first impression. You can learn from the mistakes of others and avoid the top 10 worst interview blunders.

    Poor handshake: The three-second handshake that starts the interview is your first opportunity to create a great impression. But all too often an interview is blown right from the start by an ineffective handshake. Once you've delivered a poor handshake, it's nearly impossible to recover your efforts to build rapport. Here are some examples:

    • The Limp Hand (or "dead fish"): Gives the impression of disinterest or weakness
    • The Tips of the Fingers: Shows lack of ability to engage.
    • The Arm Pump: Sincerity is questionable, much like an overly aggressive salesman.

    Even if you're a seasoned professional, don't assume you have avoided these pitfalls. Your handshake may be telling more about you than you know. Ask for honest critiques from several friends who aren't afraid to tell you the truth.

    Talking too much: In my recruiting days, I abhorred over-talkative candidates. So did most of my client employers. Over-talking takes a couple of forms:

    • Taking too long to answer direct questions. The impression: This candidate just can't get to the point.
    • Nervous talkers. The impression: This candidate is covering up something or is outright lying.

    To avoid either of these forms of over-talking, practice answering questions in a direct manner. Avoid nervous talking by preparing for your interview with role-play

    Talking negatively about current or past employers/managers: The fastest way to talk yourself out of a new job is to say negative things. Even if your last boss was Attila the Hun, never, never state your ill feelings about him/her. No matter how reasonable your complaints, you will come out the loser if you show that you disrespect your boss because the interviewer will assume that you would similarly trash him or her. When faced with the challenge of talking about former employers, make sure you are prepared with a positive spin on your experiences.

    Showing up late or too early: One of the first lessons in job-search etiquette is to show up on time for interviews. Many job-seekers don't realize, however, that showing up too early often creates a poor first impression as well. Arriving more than 10 minutes early for an interview is a dead giveaway that the job seeker has too much time on his or her hands, much like the last one picked for the softball team. Don't diminish your candidate desirability by appearing desperate. Act as if your time were as valuable as the interviewer's. Always arrive on time, but never more than 10 minutes early.

    Treating the receptionist rudely: Since the first person you meet on an interview is usually a receptionist, this encounter represents the first impression you'll make. Don't mistake low rank for low input. Often that receptionist's job is to usher you into your interview. The receptionist has the power to pave your way positively or negatively before you even set eyes on the interviewer. The interviewer may also solicit the receptionist's opinion of you after you leave.

    Asking about benefits, vacation time or salary: What if a car salesman asked to see your credit report before allowing you to test drive the cars? That would be ridiculous, and you'd walk away in disgust. The effect is about the same when a job-seeker asks about benefits or other employee perks during the first interview. Wait until you've won the employer over before beginning that discussion.

    Not preparing for the interview: Nothing communicates disinterest like a candidate who hasn't bothered to do pre-interview research. On the flip side, the quickest way to a good impression is to demonstrate your interest with a few well thought out questions that reflect your knowledge of their organization.

    Verbal ticks: An ill-at-ease candidate seldom makes a good impression. The first signs of nervousness are verbal ticks. We all have them from time to time -- "umm," "like," "you know." Ignore the butterflies in your stomach and put up a front of calm confidence by avoiding verbal ticks. You can also sometimes avoid verbal ticks by pausing for a few seconds to gather your thoughts before each response.

    One of the best ways to reduce or eliminate them is through role-play. Practice sharing your best success stories ahead of time, and you'll feel more relaxed during the real interview.

    Not enough/too much eye contact: Either situation can create a negative effect. Avoid eye contact and you'll seem shifty, untruthful, or disnterested; offer too much eye contact, and you'll wear the interviewer out. If you sometimes have trouble with eye-contact balance, work this issue out ahead of time in an interview practice session with a friend.

    Failure to match communication styles: It's almost impossible to make a good first impression if you can't communicate effectively with an interviewer. But you can easily change that situation by mirroring the way the interviewer treats you. For instance:

    • If the interviewer seems all business, don't attempt to loosen him/her up with a joke or story. Be succinct and businesslike
    • If the interviewer is personable, try discussing his/her interests. Often the items on display in the office can offer a clue.
    • If asked a direct question, answer directly. Then follow up by asking if more information is needed.

    Allowing the interviewer to set the tone of conversation can vastly improve your chances of making a favorable impression. You can put the interviewer at ease -- and make yourself seem more like him or her -- by mirroring his or her communication style.

    Final Thoughts
    Just as a strong resume wins you an opportunity to interview, strong interview skills will win you consideration for the job. You already know that you won't earn an interview unless your resume sets you apart as a candidate of choice. Similarly, you should know that polishing your interview skills can mean the difference between getting the job offer -- and being a runner-up.

    Start your job search with a resume that creates a stellar first impression, then back those facts up with your extraordinary interview skills. You will have made yourself a better candidate by avoiding these ten interview pitfalls. And no one will have to talk about you as the candidate who "almost" got the job.


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  •  10-11-2005, 05:28 AM 21479 in reply to 21218

    Re: negociera salariului

    Bun topic! Contine informatii foarte valoroase.

    O zi buna.


    Forward ever, backward never
  •  03-04-2006, 03:31 AM 37229 in reply to 21305